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taybrynn
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 Posted: Thursday February 28th, 2008 04:05 pm
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I've been in talks with the good folks over at EDM about trying to get us a special "group buy" rate on their excellent transmitters.

These are certainly quite comparable to the popular Ramsey transmitters, but are much easier to assemble and smaller in size.  These kits are designed for PERFORMANCE, not flashy looks or special features. 

This transmitter is reported to have excellent sound quality :) and good transmission range.   I have not found anyone yet who has been truly dis-satisfied.  That says a lot -- so I bought one myself and truly believe in this product myself and want to share this discovery with other PC members.
:smile: The only reason you will not get near CD quality sound is because of the limited frequency response allowed by the FM stereo standard. CD will go right up to 20kHz where FM is limited to 15kHz. 



The two configurations offered are both excellent and feature the transmitter, a test antenna, metal enclosure w/nice mount points and a regulated power supply. 

These include a standard 2 year warranty and excellent support from EDM. 



These are still KITS (as required by the FCC), but require only basic soldering and assembly skills.  The estimated assembly time is 20 minutes or less, and only 2 or 3 solder points to fill total, depending upon the model selected.   I assembled mine using only a small phillips screwdriver, a needle nosed pliers and a soldering iron and a small amount of electronic solder.

The prices above for PC members only ... ** but we need to buy in groups of 10 units ** [ bulk pricing] at a time to get this group purchase discount.  

To get this discount , there is a special PC members order page that you will need to PM (private message) me to obtain.  Please do not distribute this link to others or publish this in any forum or web site.



** Remember to put your PC username into the paypal order 'notes section', when ordering. **

The somewhat unique caveat with this particular 'group buy' is that really is on ongoing bulk buy discount for PC members.  So what this means is that orders could be delayed to satisfy the bulk purchasing requirement of 10 units at a time.

All PC orders will be delayed till 10 or more orders are received, and then they will all ship out together in the normal fashion.  EDM wanted to make this part clear, so no one is surprised if a delay occurs.

Of course, many here are accustomed to group buys, where you place and order and then get the items quite a bit later ... so I'm hoping this is ok with folks.

The good part is that this discount will be made available to more people and over a longer period  then a normal single-event group buy would.

Please do not post/re-post these prices in other forums or publicly, as they will be made available to PC members only.  If this discount gets abused, then we could potentially loose this discount.

Scott / taybrynn

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Some additional information is listed below:

The normal shipping timeframe from EDM still apply.  As mentioned, some additional delay could occur to comply with the bulk purchasing requirements mentioned above.  I would say 10-20 days would be typical, so do not buy if you need this ASAP.

These units are PLL locking and remember the frequency you were last using between power ups.

These units also feature muted RF output while tuning, which means you don't walk all over the other channels while selecting your desired frequency.

Other selling points:



10mW generally proviides plenty range for a LOR show -- your mileage may vary, depending upon your location, local conditions, unit positioning and antenna used.  I have found the the included test antenna was sufficient for me at 10mW. 

The adjustable models are nice in that you can actually turn up or down the power as needed to achieve the best possible range and FCC compliance for your needs.

It is up to YOU to make sure you are transmitting in compliance with FCC Part 15 regulations.  This is a free license to broadcast, but it should always be adhered to.  When in doubt, use lower power and less antenna as long as you still get the range you need for your display. 

Radio Brandy review: http://www.radiobrandy.com/Transmitters.html

A related PC thread: http://planetchristmas.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=22086&forum_id=6&highlight=EDM

EDM homepage: http://www.edmdesign.com/

There is also an EDM yahoo group, for those that eventually become owners: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edmdesign/

Last edited on Thursday February 28th, 2008 06:40 pm by taybrynn



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 Posted: Thursday February 28th, 2008 05:42 pm
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I should probably also note that the bulk ordering limitation of 10 units, is per transmitter model.

So transmitter models would be either LED or LCD.

So it is per LED transmitter and per LCD transmitter ... once 10 units are ordered of a given type (LED or LCD), then the orders for that transmitter model should get fulfilled and processed normally.

This delay in processing is the only thing different than order from them directly ... oh yeah, and the lower prices!! :P

I would also like to thank terrypowerz for suggesting this in the first place and to dotcom for helping me as well.

I also want to thank EDM for being so cooperative and helpful all along the way.  I don't think they realized we existed and we didn't know about them either.



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 Posted: Thursday February 28th, 2008 07:32 pm
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It looks like it's an RCA connection. I guess you'd have to down that to an 1/8th mini plug for your computer.

The Belkin I have still seems to do the job and I have a Second Belkin Spare. Although I must admit I still keep pondering purchasing a bigger badder unit.

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 Posted: Thursday February 28th, 2008 07:54 pm
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Yes, thats correct, RCA inputs.  And the antenna is also a RCA connection, but easily adaptable.



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i like my PCI MAX so im out but thanks for the invite



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 Posted: Friday February 29th, 2008 05:46 am
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Thank you again for the info and the link!! I will order once you answer one question:

Will I regret not spending the extra 44 dollars? It is not a lot of money, but I do not want to waste 44 dollars if it is not money well spent. I am not very technical at all so keep in mind that user friendliness is an important factor for me.

I know that you know these units so I will trust your judgment!!!

LED or LCD?

I know it is a lot of pressure but you can havdle it:laughing:

Thanks again,

beachchristmas

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 Posted: Friday February 29th, 2008 06:22 am
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Nothing like pressure eh?  Alex, I'll take transmitters for $100 please ...

I would probably say that if you find yourself thinking $44 is not a lot of money, as you just said ... then it would likely be worth it get the LCD unit if your budget allows.

I don't really think there is a lot of ease of use gained in the LCD unit, other than the ability to adjust the power levels, which could be useful to be as FCC compliant as possible.  THe only downside to the LCD is that its somewhat bigger than the LED.

The LED unit is really quite good and not a compromise any more than the PC controllers are a compromise vs. showtime controllers ...  but improvements were made and put into the LCD unit in late 2007, so the $44 goes towards all those improvements, including a better VCO and higher specs across the board.

I bought the LCD, so if you can afford it and find yourself being the type (like me) that likes knowing you got the best (at the time) ... then get the LCD.

So your choice is the LCD -- there, I made it for you! :cool:

 



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Here is a primer on what I got when I ordered mine recently.  Notice the ZA  postal address (aka. Dutch Zuid-Afrika or S. Africa).  I have to say this is a first for me.

The box as it arrived in my mailbox via USPS (in mint condition I might add) :


* Sorry about my comments -- when I resized the graphics for message board use, they became fuzzy and too small to easily read.

The packaging was very good, with bubble wrap and foam protection all around:



This shows the approx. size of the unit in my hand, next to my cat Chloe:



This is the complete kit folks.  I know its not as impressive as a Ramsey FM100B kit, but for those that are less capable -- this was the deal maker for me -- something even "I" could do!



Note: this is the EDM LCD, the EDM LED would be slightly different, but you get the idea about these kits.



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You live in Colorado but read Southern Living?



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My wife is from the South ... ;)



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I have to say, thats a beautiful cat you have there :)

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For those placing orders:

If you have not received your manual via email by the day after placing the order ... then something is likely getting blocked and you should notify EDM by emailing them at  mailto:edm@global.co.za

Your email and/or spam filtering may need to be configured to allow edm@global.co.za to send messages.

They will send out the manual ASAP after receiving an order.



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From the yahoo EDM group:

All our kits have static protection designed into the circuit. Although
it won't protect the RF amplifier against a severe electrical discharge
from a nearby lightning strike, it will give very good protection
against the occasional accidental body static discharge. Apart from
this we use a very robust RF output stage. The LED 10/100mW units as
well as the LCD uses a RF amplifier with very high specifications and
used in many military products. It is always a very good idea to unplug
any outside antennas during bad weather conditions. The failure rate of
RF amplifiers for our units are almost non-existent.

Other manufacturers seem to be having much more trouble in this area
from the feedback we get. The EDM is designed to be robust as some of
our engineers have experience designing military communications
circuits. Some users have had theirs on the air 24/7 for 3-4 years.

EDM Team

 



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A brand new review just came out:

HD RADIO VS THE EDM LCD TRANSMITTER

http://www.radiobrandy.com/EDMvsHD.html

BTW, the HD RADIO is USING a > $700 transmitter.



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Very good news.  This just keeps getting better and better.



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 I love to have one those FM radio. I only have 6-pole .That what Happen when you do not ask to much question. I do allot Search on this forum I always find my question. I just 3 month old pc member .I can‘t answer to much question for now to help member because I new on this . Something turn out you need one more pc member to finish your group let me know I would join the group.

Thank Daniel   (Now I have 7 pole   3more to go)  :]:]:]:]:]:]:]:]:]:waycool:



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Daniel,

I just sent you a PM.



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We were at 2 order each of the LED and LCD on Friday.  There are about 5-6 new orders possible today.

BTW, you are not limited to just one transmitter.  You can buy one of each, if you so choose.



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johnny christmas wrote: i like my PCI MAX so im out but thanks for the invite


Johnny I my thoughts exactly....  I'll stick with My Ramsey  knowing its from a true American company, and its just a quick call away for support, and not a product from South Africa where many US citizens have fell into product scams over the past few years....

IMHO,  something doens't feel comfortable on this deal...International shipping cost WAY more than the $8.50  I see on that shipping label.

Just my .04 ( .02 adjusted for inflation)

 

 

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taybrynn wrote:
:smile: The only reason you will not get near CD quality sound is because of the limited frequency response allowed by the FM stereo standard. CD will go right up to 20kHz where FM is limited to 15kHz. 




 

The reason FM cannot transmit up to the 20K ( which most of use cannot hear anyways  due to old ANALOG LOUD music listening) is becuase of the 19Khz pilot! 

If that Pilot was not there anything above 15k pumped into the transitter would be transmitted and a matching receiver could recieve it, but we would most likely never hear it!

BTW please define "CD quality" sound.  That term is up there with "digital Ready" .  I have yet to hear the sound of  1's and 0's (errrr ......binary code), and our ears are kinda of an old but pretty nifty design that only recieves analog information. 

my .04 (.02adjusted for inflation)

 

 

Last edited on Sunday March 2nd, 2008 12:38 am by mnkyboy



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